tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2352648376305239677.post2272936593054455431..comments2023-10-20T08:32:14.040-04:00Comments on Heaving Dead Cats: How Far Does God Push The Faithful?Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12653141544095753595noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2352648376305239677.post-5849738365090555802009-08-08T06:02:31.000-04:002009-08-08T06:02:31.000-04:00Eric, You hit the nail on the head! I like you...Eric,<br> You hit the nail on the head! I like your use of "scripture".;)<br>I think news like this is abhorent, it should of been publisized more. These are the types of stories that raise many qusetions. My question is why wasn't more questions asked? People need to understand the absurdity in murders of this nature. What mentality does one "choose" to subjugate maternal instinct for blind belief??? Also, can this be excused as a "TEST" from the big sky daddy??? (Sorry but now I'm starting to rant.) The sad part is that this not the last time something like this will happen. It will happen again, and again, unless more people become more vocal on issues like this..petenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2352648376305239677.post-65540195966123936412009-08-08T12:38:36.000-04:002009-08-08T12:38:36.000-04:00Why do they always wait till after the kid dies? ...Why do they always wait till after the kid dies? It's what they do. And some don't even do that - they just bury the kid and don't tell anyone.Angie Jacksonhttp://angietheantitheist.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2352648376305239677.post-80061205414951468612009-08-08T16:12:38.000-04:002009-08-08T16:12:38.000-04:00Thanks Eric. Yes, people do take the quotes quite ...Thanks Eric. Yes, people do take the quotes quite literally, don't they? Even though there's zero evidence of prayer working. Then again most people happily rely on weak anecdotal evidence and cherry picking/selective remembering of events. <br>I agree. It's sickening.Neecehttp://www.heavingdeadcats.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2352648376305239677.post-20953379229305140142009-08-08T16:15:37.000-04:002009-08-08T16:15:37.000-04:00Hi Pete. I understand your need and desire to rant...Hi Pete. I understand your need and desire to rant over such an abhorrent story. You're right. This will happen again. It's disgusting. Do you think even being more vocal makes a difference to "true believers"? How easy it must be to think that one's prayers are superior to another's when that other's prayers have failed. It all makes me sick. I'll stick to reason and science, thank you very much.Neecehttp://www.heavingdeadcats.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2352648376305239677.post-37193597655138074632009-08-08T16:17:26.000-04:002009-08-08T16:17:26.000-04:00It's pretty horrible, isn't it, Angie. Per...It's pretty horrible, isn't it, Angie. Personally I think the parents should be taken from the courtroom and immediately killed. There is no way a person that heinous is going to ever be rational and a healthy, contributing member of society.Neecehttp://www.heavingdeadcats.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2352648376305239677.post-50823647001604756282009-08-08T16:46:01.000-04:002009-08-08T16:46:01.000-04:00I gotta disagree with you there. I've known p...I gotta disagree with you there. I've known parents who lost their kids to religious ignorance and blind faith. There are so many people to blame in these situations, not just the individual parents whose kids don't survive the environment (like I did). As hard as it is to believe that someone could both love their child and see them suffer, I know my mom would have done it to me. I walked with a cane for three years in high school because of a dislocated hip. If it had been disease instead of pain, I would have died. I know my medical needs were ignored and it's lucky I don't catch anything fatal because no one would've taken my ass to the hospital.<br><br>And yet, you know, she's my mom. She's not an evil person; she loves me. She's smart as hell, has a PhD. She just got sucked in by a cult. That's really all it takes to make you do the most evil things in the world. But you can make it out of a cult and you can get better and you can change. You can't bring prayer killed kids back to life though.Angie Jacksonhttp://angietheantitheist.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2352648376305239677.post-48091558438713923372009-08-08T18:51:41.000-04:002009-08-08T18:51:41.000-04:00I guess it matters on the case. And yes, blind fai...I guess it matters on the case. And yes, blind faith and religious ignorance, combined with copious amounts of brainwashing can make people do stupid things, I guess. Not that the Neumanns should be let off the hook for that. There are consequences to your actions and they should at least spend the rest of their lives in jail for killing their daughter with medical neglect.Neecehttp://www.heavingdeadcats.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2352648376305239677.post-85926878728506318372009-08-09T04:45:30.000-04:002009-08-09T04:45:30.000-04:00I absolutely agree with you. I always hope parent...I absolutely agree with you. I always hope parents in these cases (1-5 per month in the US!) give parents the maximum sentence possible in their state. I've been thinking of how to explain this in my book and I think that basically religious freedoms are treated as supreme in this country; I think religious freedoms should be secondary to secular rights (right to physical safety, right to lack of bodily harm, right to access to medical care, right to an education, etc.) <br><br>All too often I saw families put the secular rights of their children LAST and their god delusion first. In addition to the little boy who died from stings, I used to babysit a lot of my grandma's followers' kids and these were 9 and 10 year olds who couldn't read because they'd never been to school. <br><br>But ultimately, if we won't allow the defense to use "I was just following orders" in Nuremberg Trials, we shouldn't allow it from these parents either.Angie Jacksonhttp://angietheantitheist.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2352648376305239677.post-25067842192925566212009-08-09T12:41:25.000-04:002009-08-09T12:41:25.000-04:00For prayer to have any efficacy you need to sacrif...For prayer to have any efficacy you need to sacrifice a small animal. You see, to get god's attention he needs to smell blood and burning flesh.Holy Rollernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2352648376305239677.post-61614745476536354942009-08-12T15:05:49.000-04:002009-08-12T15:05:49.000-04:00As I said in my own post on the matter; put the pa...As I said in my own post on the matter; put the parents away for the maximum sentence and let them pray to be released earlier.Buffyhttp://gaytheistagenda.lavenderliberal.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2352648376305239677.post-38454433174748644412009-08-12T22:14:19.001-04:002009-08-12T22:14:19.001-04:00Holy Roller, that is a great point! LOL! If I reca...Holy Roller, that is a great point! LOL! If I recall, god particularly loves the smell of burning goat flesh. What he has against goats, I have no idea. They're actually quite personable animals. Then again, god is an asshole, so I guess he doesn't need a reason to hate goats. Not that he exists.... Wait! That must be why he hates goats, because they DO exist, when he doesn't! HAHAHAHA!Neecehttp://www.heavingdeadcats.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2352648376305239677.post-34322938253404488532009-08-12T22:14:19.000-04:002009-08-12T22:14:19.000-04:00I agree Buffy. That's excellent!I agree Buffy. That's excellent!Neecehttp://www.heavingdeadcats.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2352648376305239677.post-75316728742855235952009-08-12T22:15:25.000-04:002009-08-12T22:15:25.000-04:00I find it all completely disgusting, Angie. I real...I find it all completely disgusting, Angie. I really do. Thanks for your thoughts on this.Neecehttp://www.heavingdeadcats.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2352648376305239677.post-53077917481102378512009-08-13T05:19:25.001-04:002009-08-13T05:19:25.001-04:00Sure thing. I've got a unique perspective lol...Sure thing. I've got a unique perspective lolAngie Jacksonhttp://angietheantitheist.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2352648376305239677.post-68670576181766654482009-08-13T05:19:25.000-04:002009-08-13T05:19:25.000-04:00That certainly makes the punishment fit the crime....That certainly makes the punishment fit the crime.Angie Jacksonhttp://angietheantitheist.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2352648376305239677.post-74161266369299429732009-08-20T03:27:41.000-04:002009-08-20T03:27:41.000-04:00[...] are still in anguish because of their lack o...[...] are still in anguish because of their lack of faith in your God? When will you realize that your religious faith is not enough to save someone’s life? It has been tested over and over, but yet, prayer without science doesn’t [...]The Spin on God’s Healing Power « Proud Atheistshttp://proudatheists.wordpress.com/2009/08/20/the-spin-on-gods-healing-power/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2352648376305239677.post-77146885394417021502010-09-08T23:56:58.000-04:002010-09-08T23:56:58.000-04:00Don't be such fools. the only reason why praye...Don't be such fools. the only reason why prayer isn't working/or what use would say (failing) for use is because use are lacking in faith instead of beliveing in Gods maraculous powers. If use want to see evidence whatch a Christian Chanell on other; foxtel or via the enternet, I would recomend watching Benny Hin ministries or other Christian ministries online.<br><br>By the way I have witnessed Gods healing powers in real life<br><br>God Bless use all <br>:)Jesus Loves Younoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2352648376305239677.post-6897988907668872542010-11-02T17:53:37.000-04:002010-11-02T17:53:37.000-04:00the same situation happened with my sister she was...the same situation happened with my sister she was 12 years old i was 6 she was dying.. my parents refused to take her to the hospital believing god would fix this illness. She unknowingly had diabetes also. She was to the point she could not move couldn't walk throwing up non stop all she would eat was watermelon for a while then it got to the point she couldn't eat at all. She was slowly dying a long brutal death because her life was the hands of a god that does not exist. I remember my dad carying her around because she was too weak to move she was pale and didnt talk.. People need to get over the fact that there is nothing more then a dark casket filled with dirt and bones, no soul, no afterlife, no god. Plain and simple im sorry to be so brutally honest. But i guess youd like to know my my dad argued with my mom then finally gave in and took her to the hospital. She lived she is 23 today and happy with two kids of her own. The doctors told my parents if they had waited so much as another hour she would have died without the insulin she needed.hannah matsudanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2352648376305239677.post-41522684621753495722011-01-26T12:38:15.000-05:002011-01-26T12:38:15.000-05:00so to the first line of this, i thought job got th...so to the first line of this, i thought job got the blunt of pushing how much his faith could sustain, way more than abrahamtimmynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2352648376305239677.post-57689373385665757602011-03-25T20:22:18.000-04:002011-03-25T20:22:18.000-04:00Here's some "brutal honesty." Stop h...Here's some "brutal honesty." Stop hiding behind the veil of anger and resentment. Take charge of your life and don't blame others for their roles. Only you can determine what to believe and what not to believe but answer for yourself, this: Where does "love" come from? How is it measured and why does it matter? Why should someone care about you if you don't even care about them? What reasons does ANYONE have to care for anyone if life does not matter because death does not matter? What are you doing to make the world a better place besides complaining? Is it okay to forgive someone their belief system if it is out of ignorance? Who are YOU to say that GOD does not exist? Why not use your art skills to express your views or your torment or your love. Whay does art even matter? The answer is - nothing matters without a mind empowering it.Diante Smithnoreply@blogger.com