Homosexuality is a SIN, The Bible Says So!

Anyone who follows the bible as the word of god usually cherry picks just the verses that suit his or her personal moral values, or more accurately, those values foisted on them by their religious leader.

Here is a typical argument from a christian.

"Patti: Homosexuality is a sin and it is in black and white in the bible."

Patti is right. But Lacey shows what else the old testament claims are sins, which we no longer follow in our modern society:

"So is not treating your body like a temple (no more Doritos and bon bons, no more Coke or Pepsi or ice cream or potato chips!). And ladies should have their head covered. And in Deuteronomy, a marriage is only valid if the woman is a virgin, and she should be executed if she is not... and that anyone who commits adultery should be stone to death.

In Mark, divorce is prohibited. I assume for homosexuality you are referring to Leviticus 18A:6 "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female. It is an abomination." A similar verse occurs two chapters later, in Leviticus 20:13: "A man who sleeps with another man is an abomination and should be executed."

Leviticus is a holy code written 3,000 years ago. It also includes prohibitions against round haircuts, tattoos, working on the Sabbath, wearing garments of mixed fabrics (no poly cotton blends), eating pork or shellfish, getting your fortune told, and even playing with the skin of a pig (there goes football!).

I believe in morality, which is doing right regardless of what I am told.. not in religion which is doing what I am told regardless of what is right. You're welcome to your own interpretation of the bible and of politics, of course, but for me, I need more than "the bible says so" to justify certain things in this world and certainly to judge them."

I would add that the bible as a code of ethics is just about bankrupt. Even the few good things that Jesus said are not unique or special to the bible. I certainly don't need to turn to it for anything, never mind my morals and ethics.

How many times have you discussed morals with a christian and they say something like, "If god didn't exist, I'd rape, murder and steal!" Those people need religion, if that's the only thing holding them back from their psychopathic and sociopathic drives.

For me, I'm quite happy to be a good person just because it's the right thing to do. What about you?

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  1. The bible indeed has some good ideas and philosophies that would be worth following, I think that is something we all understand. What believers (christians, I mean) don't seem to understand the second part: It has good things, but, it also has outdated nonsensical and tyrannical ideas that might have been right for certain people in a certain time, but certainly not for this days.

    As an example, I like the "Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another" (Romans 12:10), which in fact is a variant of the golden rule, and that repeats a lot, especially through John's gospel. That golden rule (which by the way is not copyrighted by christians, but is present in many other philosophies) is something I can live with and should be the best known verse from the bible.

    Instead, which one is the best known? John 3:16, "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life". I mean, what the fuck? A threat/blackmail, that basically means that if you don't believe in a probable myth, that almighty, all knowing and all loving God will just kill you. I mean, what the fuck. And worse than that, is the tons of mindless sheep who believe it and brag about it everywhere, from street preachers to football players.

  2. It wouldn't bother me if Cafeteria Christians took what they wanted from the Bible and discarded the rest, so long as they used it to guide their own lives. The problem is so many of them use selected parts as weapons against others, and ignore anything that might prove inconvenient to themselves. That's why they run around screaming about how sinful it is to be gay and have abortions while they're chowing down on lobster with their third spouse.

  3. Excellent breakdown of that piece of stupidity. Like the new site set-up btw.

  4. Because if Romans 12:10 was the prominent verse in early Christianity, we wouldn't have Christianity. They spread the Gospel through Fear, War, and Conquest. Just like Islam, just like Judaism.
    John 3:16 shows how Christians use fear of the unknown to proselytize, an insurance policy against Jehovah's/Jealous'/I am's fiery hell. And only that one hell. So, you're screwed.

  5. Good point, Buffy, as usual. I agree!

  6. I still disagree about the bible containing good ideas and philosophies. Especially when you think about all the other real philosophies elsewhere that don't condone raping and selling daughters, and slavery. And lots and lots of murder.

    I agree about the golden rule, and also agree that it's not exclusive to christians by any means. If you have to cherry pick one verse out of the bible, I agree, pick the golden rule verse.

    I totally agree with your last paragraph, Diego. Seriously, it's a horrible thing to say. If god is all loving and all powerful, why did he need to be born of a virgin and then sacrifice himself ... to himself to save everyone? Why not just forgive us himself? That's the dumbest bunch of flawed logic ever.

  7. Thanks Blak Thundar. :)
    Sorry, that theme didn't last long. It had some problems. I liked it too, but the problems were not within my wheelhouse to be able to fix. I hope this theme is OK instead. :)

  8. Yes, good point, Enrys. It's all about fear of the unknown. Lack of control over your life, so you give it over to an invisible sky daddy in hopes that he will take care of you. Then you cherry pick the good stuff to that happens to you to show that god is taking care of you, and when bad stuff happens you desperately look for something you did that you can apologize for.

  9. Weird...I'm a Christian, and I'm in favor of same-sex marriage.

  10. Homosexuality is an addiction like alcoholism. It is not something people are born with. Anyone who allows themselves to succumb to the temptation can become addicted. Treatment and help centers, including 12-step groups and religious counseling, should be established to help those overcome it, who are willing to acknowledge this sinful addiction. Those who have fallen into addiction from this temptation can overcome it. They are not born into it. It is no different than alcoholism in this respect.

  11. That is such a hateful thing to say. I have friends who are homosexual. They've been that way since they were born. Your religion has poisoned your world view and you have no idea what you're talking about. There's nothing wrong or even unnatural with being gay. Almost every species on earth displays homosexual behavior.

  12. It's only hateful if you are right & Frank C. is wrong. I have friends who are homosexual as well. I know that one had the classic rigid, cold father/ domineering mother family structure per psychology 101 (pre-PC days back when science still trumped politics) and the other was raped as a teen & later had an abusive marriage. Classic cases. However, even if it were completely biological - there are lots of aberrations in nature, things like mothers eating their young. Are we supposed to accept that as normal, too, since it qualifies as "natural"? Of course not. So just because something happens in nature, it doesn't mean that we should necessarily support it.

    These people were also good people & good friends. I use the past tense, not because I no longer count them as such, but because they are gone. Their same sex attraction did not kill them; their same sex behavior did (HIV). Those who endorse the "nature" perspective evidently are also perfectly comfortable with allowing natural selection to weed them out. Odd sort of compassion.

  13. No, actually it's hateful regardless if it's right, and it's not right.

    "Classic cases."

    Um, excuse me? No, it is not. People like you disgust me, like you really can't understand that for the majority of cases homosexuals really are the same as you in every other way. You cling to rare cases and act like they are the norm, well no, they are not. Nor do I have any clue why you think those are "classic" cases for gays, they happen far more often to straights and they don't turn gay.

    Likewise of such, your little tirade of HIV. I think it's further pathetic that you are seemingly unaware that HIV cases now are just as likely to afflict straights. Now there's science. Of course you really don't care about that, you'll stick to your views to the grave because the truth of the matter is you just don't want to change your mind. You have to have excuses for your hate.

    "I have friends who are homosexual as well"
    "I use the past tense, not because I no longer count them as such, but because they are gone"

    Oops, caught lying already. Like we were actually going to believe your BS story anyways. Anti-gay bigots always have so many gay friends... The moment you said you have homosexual friends, I could see straight through you, because you act like that is something special, something that should give you credit. Well no, it doesn't. It should simply have been a given, the fact you used them as leverage to spew hate against them even after they supposedly died is absolutely abhorid.

    "doesn’t mean that we should necessarily support it."

    And you see, this is the worst part of it. This attitude. Who said you had to support it? Allowing them to bloody exist in peace without your hateful tirades is not "supporting" it. Acceptance is not support. You do not know what support is. Let me guess, privileged white Christian male? Could be wrong, but it's just the "classic" example of some smug fanatic who doesn't have a clue of what it means to be a part of a minority.

  14. I have to agree, hatefulness is hatefulness regardless. And it's not right to discriminate against people just because they are different.
    I have known many gay people (I worked at Disneyworld) and some of my dearest friends now are gay. I only say that to say that almost all of them have been gay since they were born. Some have had the most wonderful, loving lives. They were just born gay. It's not a big deal.
    And AIDs doesn't matter. Anyone can get it. It's not a scourge against homosexuals. It's a virus that's been around for a lot longer than most people realize.
    Plus, women are gay too, and lesbians have the lowest risk of any gender group for not just AIDs but almost all STDs. What about that? See, it doesn't mean anything except that some people are different, not lesser or bad or wrong.