Showing posts with label deconversion. Show all posts
Showing posts with label deconversion. Show all posts

One Man's Path From British Israelism to Agnostic Deism

I love getting emails from people. The other day a man called "The Letter D" sent me his story of his slow deconversion process from something called Armstrongism or British Israelism to basically agnostic deism of sorts (see below for the full description). I asked TLD if I could share it with you, along with my thoughts, and he readily agreed and even sent links to the places that helped enlighten him, as well as some additional thoughts and clarifications.

Without further ado, here is The Letter D's story in his own words:
I was born and raised a christian. In my childhood days I thought of god as "that bearded guy who lives in the clouds" and Satan as "the red guy with a pitch fork living in a fiery underworld". Nothing more complicated beyond that. Church consisted of a few verses read, several songs to sing, and in general hanging out. Nothing beyond that.

Dad became bored with the church and started reading the bible on his own and with several "companion" books. He became, to quote my mom, "jewish" since he started following closely what the bible said. He gave up Easter entirely and celebrated Christmas only in a secular way. He adopted Passover and gave up eating most pork products (he made exceptions for bacon and sometimes sausage).

I began to read the same books. It was difficult at first. After studying Shakespearean english I could at least finally understand most of what the bible said. The "companion" books used select verses from the bible to support their claims. I...at the time...believed the nonsense that they uttered. I still feel like a gullible twit for what I believed at the time... They taught what I found out later to be British-Israelism. They taught that the human races were decended from Noah's 3 sons (Ham-black/dark skinned, Japheth-east asian/native american/polynesian, Shem-white/tan skinned). That America and Britain were God's chosen nations due to their ancestry with Manaseh and Ephraim and that Germany was decended from Assyria and other nonsense like that. {shudders}

I discovered that besides me and my dad that several of our relatives also believed in similiar. We more or less believed the world was evil. We believed that all events that occured were predicted by the bible. One day dad's beliefs changed a little. He read a pamphlet that talked about cults and mind control. I gave it little heed at the time. He became a little more liberal. More open to Christmas (although he still ignores Easter). I still ignored those holidays though. I considered them pagan traditions unworthy to be celebrated. I looked upon other people outside of christianity (and even some other christians) as misguided and felt that homosexuals/bisexuals were to be pitied.

Some years later I read that pamphlet. Many of the "companion" books were written by people who were listed in the pamphlet. The pamphlet told about the sordid histories of those authors, the lies they tell, the corruption within their churches (while dad and I believed what they did, we were never members of their churches). I didn't believe it at first. But with research done on the net* it confirmed what was said in the pamphlet.

I was devastated to learn of this. That I was fooled into believing their version of the bible. My gloom didn't last long however and I was deeply reading the bible on my own. I didn't read all of it. But some of the parts I came upon were deeply disturbing. I told myself "God knows what he is doing. If he kills he has a reason for it", but deep down I knew it was wrong.

This Makes It All Worth It - A Followup

Earlier today I wrote about an email I received from Abraham (not his real name) and how he is starting to look to atheism. He said that it was partly due to deep thinking and partly due to things I said here on HDC. We had a very nice exchange of emails and he agreed to let me share them, which I did earlier today in This Makes It All Worth It

Well! Abraham read the emails I sent to him, and my elaboration on here (see above link) and said the following a bit ago:
Saw the post on the blog, and I appreciated it, and the comments. In terms of reading, not much so far. I did go to Wikipedia and looked up "atheism", and with your comment, it helped me greatly. I am now ready to say that I am, in fact, an atheist, and hope to be able to defend my knowing that God does not exist more in time (I did read your post on Dawkins Spectrum of Theistic Probablilty). I hope to learn more in time. I really am not that much into podcasts, but am willing to look at essays.

I told him he is now on the A-Team and that he will soon get to learn our secret handshake. :P

I had offered to share the podcasts with him that I feel have been so helpful to me. I also asked him which books he's read on the subject.

So hey, I need your help! Let's compile a list for new atheists. I'd like to put books, essays and anything else on there that you've found helpful in your godless travels. Believe it or not, I have read very little of the classic stuff on atheism/religion/etc.

What would you recommend to Abraham? Which one or 2 sources did you find most informative and helpful once you were comfortable calling yourself an atheist (or the label of your choice)? Remember, he's come over to the Dark Side now, so we don't have to convince him. Now it's about information, insight, and being able to defend his lack of belief in gods. Please leave comments with the books, essays or resources you recommend and briefly how you felt they were helpful to you. Thanks very much! :)

Questions For You

Some days the creative juices flow easier than others. Sometimes I just can't think of great ideas to share with you. I'm sorry, I am a bit tapped out lately. More great stuff will come, I'm sure. I'll just have to pray about it, I guess. "Dear Mighty Invisible Pink Unicorn...."

I'm going to share some lolcats while I take the opportunity to ask you some questions.

1. Do you have any questions or thoughts you'd like to share with HDC? You can email us at HeavingDeadCats@gmail.com

funny-pictures-cat-explains-meaning-of-life

2. Do you have a deconversion story you'd like to share with us? Send us an email with your story. We'd love to publish it for you. Reading how others have unshackled themselves from religion can be helpful to people who are struggling with such a decision.

Rise of the Gnostic Atheist: A Deconversion Story

Alias: GMNightmare
Name: Jesse
Date: 29 July 2009
Birth: 1988 C.E.
Gender: Male

In my beginning, I was born to both a new mother and new father. My birth was a rather large event to my extended family, for I was the very first great grandchild. As my mother’s family is very close, of course many made an appearance. Near birth, I was blessed and baptized by my great grandfather under Christianity.

Under such pretenses I assume many would suspect that I was raised under a very religious setting. This was luckily not the case. It is worth mentioning that my mother’s ancestors stem from a long line of clergy, and they are all fairly religious… And while my mother is also mildly religious, my family couldn’t seem to find a church that we fit into.

Sure, my family tried—I understand that we were almost sucked into Mormonism. In the end, the situation basically turned out to be a lax kind of religious attitude. There was definitely more church attending during my younger years, but we went less as time progressed. Both my parents worked difficult and long jobs, and Sunday just needed to be an actual day of rest… as well as spending time with their kids.

I vaguely remember somewhere around the age of 10 or so… well, actually quite clearly, a day dining at a restaurant. My parents posed a question, of what we (the kids) thought of hell. My personal response gave the more “good” you where in life the better you would live in heaven... Hell didn’t really exist to me even at this point in my life. My sibling’s response was far cruder; basically amounting to saying a certain relative of ours should go there.

At this point, my parents informed us that our great grandfather had done some “research” into it (Biblical studying hardly amounts to research) and came to the conclusion that hell didn’t really exist as a place. All hell basically amounted to was nothing, you died and that was it. Much like the atheist point of view of death in general actually. This certainly made more sense at the time to me than some torturous place.

Johnny Shares His Deconversion Story

funny-pictures-cat-tries-out-to-be-a-superheroOur resident superhero has posted his story for you to read. Also I changed the Testimonials page to the Deconversion page. I always hated the title of it but it took me awhile to come up with a better one in Deconversion. Testimonials are for AA meetings and churches, if you ask me.

So I wanted to bring to your attention Johnny's story, which I found quite interesting and inspiring. I think we're very lucky to have him on our team!

If you would like to share your deconversion story, you can email it to us at heavingdeadcats@gmail.com. I think it's good for us to share these stories because we all step away from faith and religion, and into atheism and freethought in unique ways. It's helpful to read the stories of others to see that we are not alone on our path, even when it seems like it.